I just saw dragon ball kai online. Much of Dragon Ball can be separated into canon or not canon. Shame, I really liked Videl. As for us in the UK, we watched Funimation's dub until the introduction of Trunks, then we were shifted into watching the Ocean Dub for the remainder of the Cell arc. The English dub here isn’t complete garbage, but it’s definitely not as good as the Kai version. I don’t have a problem with Vegeta letting Cell power up, that’s fine, that’s a good fit for where his character was at. If you didn’t know, the Kai version of the show cuts out all of the filler and the English version has a new and vastly superior dub. If you’re up for it, watch The History of Trunks after that character gets his introduction. This persists heavily into Dragon Ball Super as well. And that promise is delivered, with the fight between Vegeta and Goku being one of the craziest up to that point in Dragonball. The are also other small differences between the two, including different music in some cases, and new scenes added/redone in Kai. To subscribe to this RSS feed, copy and paste this URL into your RSS reader. And I'm not even talking about filler story lines like Garlic Jr. or Goku fighting a star. The Frieza fight slowly but surely escalates to a point where the planet is about to blow up, there are geysers of lava all over the place, the sky has darkened, and it feels like the end of everything. The animation is fine, but not anywhere near what we saw between Goku and Vegeta earlier, and the fight lasts forever. This doesn’t make his appearance OK, but I wasn’t personally bothered by Mr. Popo all that much. He also shows signs of intelligence that most other characters don’t – he’s got a long and excellent memory and he brings up a few solutions to a few different problems for the protagonists. I started watching Kai from the time jump last month, and whatever I'm missing doesn't really matter because I'm loving the pacing so much. The show was a continuation of the already popular Dragon Ball series but Dragon Ball Z took the franchise to a whole other level. And there’s really no way around it by the time of DBZ – the Lookout serves as a sort of home-base for the heroes and Mr Popo is known and loved by all the characters. The lead up to the Gohan fight with 16,17, and 18 and the early tournament are mediocre compared to the Frieza saga. And it all works for making some fantastic tension. Kai is not too bad as I'm currently watching it on KIX. By now Dragon Ball Z is big and well-known enough for most people to get the major points of the series pretty quickly.Who Goku and Vegeta are; who major enemies like Freeza, or … And Bulma, I guess, but she’s thankfully just hiding out somewhere, rarely appearing to complain about something. Question about the lantern pieces in the Winter Toy shop set. When I finished it, and in my head I mostly connected to where DBZ starts, i felt like DB was the better show. If you’ve read this far, thank you! Kami even points this out and Piccolo doesn’t want to hear any of it, he just gets a power boost and gets into a fight with them. This way we can enjoy the higher fidelity without missing out on the story. the kai one is for little kids. The drivers license episode is my second favorite after Monster Carrot from Dragonball. Or two, or three, for that matter. It's form original creator, not like GT (Dragon Ball GT isn't connected to this). It’s like Toriyama wanted this to be the most goofy and the most serious Dragonball arc, all at once. Trunks attacked first. Dragonball is for sure amazing and I still have slightly more affection for it than Z or beyond to be honest. Sure! And you can’t really talk about cool moments in the Cell saga without talking about Trunks’s introduction. Majin Buu starts off as a stupid being who can barely talk or think for himself, who is only interested in candy and can even turn people and things – including entire cities – into candy. That isn’t to say that the Cell Saga doesn’t have its moments. There’s fighting, and it’s all good stuff. The other thing I want to talk about doesn’t get brought up quite so much, but Master Roshi’s actions towards women didn’t sit well with me. *spoilers* Anime and Manga - Other Titles This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. And it gets dragged out even more than it should be. Kai isn't bad though it's more focused on the action, rather than the humor, which I appreciate. Secondly, the main difference is that Kai lacks the filler content of the original Dragon Ball Z, and stops at the end of the Cell saga. If you go back in and re-color him, as 4Kids attempted to do, it just looks absolutely terrible. For example: In the original DBZ, one of the most intriguing, and perhaps touching, moments is Gohan surviving alone in the wilderness. If I didn’t know there were more to the show, I’d assume they couldn’t go any crazier than this (Kid Buu does, but that’s much later in the show). I think this might be the longest thing I have written out since college, actually! I'm not saying that I hate it (I actually love the theme song called 'Dragon Soul'. Sure, this is where he starts moving towards being a good guy, but he’s nowhere near there yet. Also the episodes titles seem too long. Kai is more faithful to the manga than the original anime was. I wish they had been removed from Kai entirely – they should have been, and it seems the Japanese agree with me. Also, Vegeta probably wouldn’t have any of that. If you want to portray him as a wise old man who is also a bit of a perv, there are plenty of ways to do that without scenes like the above. What we’ve got is a fat black character with giant lips who appears behind a window and scares the ever-living shit out of Bulma. I do want to talk about each individual arc a bit, but I don’t want this blog to end on a completely sour note so I need to interject this bit somewhere. They even find ways to make sure that the fighting isn’t just ye olde Dragonball punches and kicks and energy blasts, too, and when it is just that, there’s still something else going on somewhere to keep the audience invested in the plot. All of this culminates in the fight against Frieza, which is pretty much the most iconic thing in Dragonball Z. Frieza’s right and left hand men, Zarbon and Dodoria, are about equal to Vegeta and Frieza himself vastly outclasses everyone combined. Things only get weirder for her as she learns more and more about Gohan and his friends, and she’s in constant bewilderment. Later, we get the Ginyu Force, and each of those guys are hammy enough to carry an entire 80’s cartoon on their own shoulders. 18 throws him into the side of the plane. Anime & Manga Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for anime and manga fans. I have zero interest in watching unabridged, ultra-padded original run DBZ at this point in my life. Here, we’ve got a pervy old man – who is otherwise presented as wise and old – purposefully doing unwelcome things to a woman. Piccolo finally becomes a good guy without a doubt. So what we’ve got are some of my favorite Dragonball Z episodes sandwiching the worst stretch of Dragonball Z out there, and in that “bad stretch” are a lot of actually-funny details and jokes surrounded by really annoying details and jokes. Toei Animation commissioned Kai to help introduce the Dragon Ball franchise to a new generation. Dragon Ball Z Kai is a 2009 revision of the original Dragon Ball Z - a show that's lauded as one of the best Shonen Battle Anime ever made. As such, I personally don't hold the same love for the Cell arc and think that the Frieza arc is the absolute best arc of Dragon Ball. I personally hate fillers and have stopped watching series like the Flash and Arrow because their fillers were unbareable but I found the Dragon Ball fillers to be quite enjoyable and worth watching. It’s well-paced shonen, with good fights, good villains, good character dynamics, and some nice plot twists to keep your attention. Follow this ultimate list of Dragon Ball Watch Order to enjoy your watch! Wow, I Wrote A Lot More Than I Thought I Would. This is Dragonball at its best, escalating from “this guy can blow up a mountain, he’s pretty strong” to “everyone can blow up mountains with ease, now we’re fighting a guy that can blow up a planet”. I just wasn’t as entertained here. And the only people representing the good guys are Gohan and Krillin. If I remember correctly it was based after the return from Namek. What's with the Trump veto due to insufficient individual covid relief? The show in general brushes up against, for lack of a better term, “normal life” just often enough to make the contrast between Krillin cutting off space lizard Hitler’s tail and Krillin hanging around watching TV at Master Roshi’s funny and interesting. BUT! Even if I accept the above as a plot point, I’d be disappointed in the fact that little actually seems to happen in this fight. Dragon Ball Kai isn't just the best version of Dragon Ball Z, it's the only version of Dragon Ball Z anyone should ever watch, for anything other than purely nostalgic reasons. I’ve spent the past month and some change thinking about this show when I wasn’t watching it, writing bits and pieces of this whole post down in different places, and just letting Dragonball Z churn around in my head whenever I could. After DBZ Kai episode 98, watch DBZ episodes 195-199 aka the Otherworld Tournament. You’d think that an apology and a discussion about Cell over a few beers would go a long way towards keeping Cell from his full power, but nobody thinks of that. But far more often, I found myself looking at my phone or ignoring the show because I was just ready for this bit to be over and for Vegetto to show up. Normally, the name “Mr. Speaking as someone with an outsider's perspective, I think the reason the Cell arc seems to be the most loved in the USA is because it was the first arc to be consistently produced for its English dub. I would watch Z first then Kai if you're interested in seeing the differences. Gohan’s now a sixteen year old and his mother thinks he’ll be better off if he actually participates in society a little before going out into the real world. I read the summary and it basically said it is the same as Dragon Ball Z without all the extra stuff. Again. I still don’t really know how to end all of this, so instead of continuing to ramble, I’ll cap this off with a spoiler-block’d bit on where you can watch Dragonball Z, because it’s actually kind of confusing. This is not funny. He’s still a bad guy here. Dragon Ball Z Kai is Dragon Ball Z recut for the digital HD era.The original Dragon Ball Z was remastered into an HD format, new … You’ve probably already guessed what I’m talking about just by reading that sentence. Vegeta has to figure out how to gather all of the dragonballs without alerting Frieza to his presence so he can get his wish for immortality, but he thinks he has all the time in the world. Vegeta’s pretty great here. Watch it if you want, but it has (almost) the same story as beginning of Dragon Ball Super. Kid Buu shows up and saves all of that. How does difficulty affect the game in Cyberpunk 2077? Fine, that doesn’t prove they aren’t bad guys, just that they were ignoring you until you tried to fight them. We’re given enough to know that these guys were once Goku’s rivals and are now his friends, and then we see them get wiped out with ease, establishing that things are going to get way crazier than they’ve ever been. But I plan to buy all 291 episodes of the original. What is Dragon Ball Kai? It’s not just awesome visuals, here, it’s really good storytelling, where everything balances on an extremely tight rope and one wrong move brings everything crashing down. id rather watch kai because its shorter and has less filler but z is what everyone raves about so idk It doesn’t really matter what Mr. Popo was meant to be. I loved watching this show again, and I had to get something out. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that my knowledge of the series is like 90% Team Four Star and 10% vague memories of sporadically catching it on Toonami back in the day, so I think I'd actually like to give it an earnest shot. Dragonball Z has two problems that really don’t fly in 2018. Otherwise, I’d suggest not watching the movies until after watching the show. Sure, there were reused animations but that was ok. And it made me realize that ALL of dragon ball z is like the final arc of dbz (ignoring that gt and now super come after). My question is simply where is kai streaming? We get a setup where he and a super-strong crime fighting girl named Videl, Satan’s daughter, have both taken a great-power-comes-great-responsibility attitude towards crime in Satan City and started fighting it. When Super Buu shows up, everything gets worse. In conclusion, watch the real DBZ 'cause it is good and a classic and you get to see Kid Trunks in action. Dragon Ball is one of the oldest and most beloved anime series over the decades. We get precious little of it before things go off the rails, however. Everyone seems to think he does and he kind of acts like he does, but he doesn’t tell anybody. However, Kai has 98 episodes while Dragon Ball has 153 and Z has almost 300. Dragon Ball Z Kai. You might come across arguments on the internet about the merits of the Ocean dub and the Faulconer soundtrack and so on and so forth. One fan decided to comb through hours of Naruto content and edit the version down to a shorter version. The Frieza Saga Is Still One Hell Of A Thing. Gohan's voice is fucking awful in Kai. Goku’s got a plan, right? Maybe tell your kid that this is the big plan before enacting it on him? I’ve outlined above that I think this show goes to some great places even after this. Wrap it up and go home, let’s wish back everyone that Cell killed. So then everyone shows up on Namek and we see people that even Vegeta fears. If Toriyama wasn’t trolling before, he has to be now, right? If I watch only Dragon Ball Z Kai, do I miss anything I would get by watching the other two series? As a plus, it uses the original soundtrack, so you get Cha-La Head Cha-La as your opening! there are silly things chopped away from what I remember in Dragonball Z. Much of this was cut in Kai, and so, unless you've already seen DBZ, it might seem a little choppy. Let that sit for a minute and then move on. Most importantly, you miss Goku getting his license! Satan” who has become a world-famous martial artist in a world that loves fighting. I haven’t seen any of the movies but I’m pretty sure most of them are non-canon. You won’t be lost if you don’t watch it, but it does fill out some details about that character and it’s worthwhile if you just want to see more Future Trunks. 1 0 YES! That's about all I can think of. Do the events of the Dragon Ball movies happen to some extent in the series? It’s chock full of humor and jokes and silliness and ridiculousness at just the right moments, and seriousness and emotion and anger and pride at just their right moments. 3. It just all feels rather bland and boring, and Gohan’s “ooh, I’m so angry and can barely contain it, you better watch out!” thing doesn’t come across as badass anymore, it just comes across as an attitude that fits squarely into a bad nu-metal song. In some cases though, this could affect how some see the development of characters. There's some great characters here and some good moments, plus we get introduced to King Kai's counterparts, as well as Grand Kai, and Pikkon. But it’s not just the crazy fights that make Dragonball Z so much fun. The Cell Saga is indeed not number one as a whole but it does have quite possibly my favorite moment when Gohan goes SSJ2 and starts kicking the ever living shit out of Cell. But there’s not a ton to really say about them. … Unfortunately for him, he doesn’t have a blu-ray player at the moment – my parents are borrowing it – so I wound up borrowing the discs from him and found myself way into Dragonball Z. I have finished all 167 episodes of Kai and I have opinions. Now I am confused as to whether watch the Dragon Ball Z or the Dragon Ball Z Kai series. If that sounds cool to you, then Dragonball Z will probably be your jam. But then the Androids let everyone live, they even ensure that one guy can still walk so he can get senzu beans to all the others. The whole thing ends in a great big Kamehameha beam struggle and then done. From what I've read as well we are going to lose out on the Majin Buu Saga, the Kid Buu Saga and the Super Android 17 Saga. But large parts of this saga were either baffling or boring. There were no moments throughout where I was not entertained or engaged in some way, apart from Bulma and Chi-Chi being irritating characters that don’t actually appear all that often. Turns out a lot to say. I've literally finished watching the final chapters today ironically. Kai's dialog is heavily edited compared to the original and I feel like it looses alot of it's charm in the process. Plans get made, intense fights are had, entire planets are turned into rubble, the animation quality gets a bump again, and it all looks and feels great and intense. Dragon Ball Recut [COMPLETE], Dragon Ball Kai Recut [WIP, Saiyan to Cell COMPLETE], Dragon Ball Z Recut [WIP] Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:59 am A while ago, I completed an edit of Dragon Ball wherein I removed as much filler as I possibly could. The Saiyan Saga is neither particularly long nor terribly complicated, even by Dragonball standards, but it does do a great job of setting up everything else in the series. But Videl has no idea what she’s in for and she winds up witnessing Goten, a seven year old, blow up a boulder with nothing but an outstretched palm and a thought. With the Saiyan and Frieza arcs, Goku went through three different voice actors, and the entire voice cast was changed by the time he arrived on Namek. What tone to play for an upper neighbor in jazz? Kid Buu saved the end of this show for me – the show finds a focus here that it didn’t have before and excises most of the gag stuff and the arrogance without getting rid of it completely. I may buy all Dragon Ball series over summer but I want to know if Kai is finished... PSN twigduckchu 3DS 5129-1237-1846 (PM me if you add me) Playing: (PS3) Hatsune Miku (PS1) Final Fantasy V, Persona 2 (Vita) Ps All Stars (3DS) Pokemon Y, MH3U. And that’s where the brief glimmer of hope that female characters would be relevant went – down the drain, with Android 18 extorting money out of Mr. Satan and Videl in a hospital bed (she gets better soon, thanks senzu beans!). From which series should I start watching Dragon Ball? This makes for a great mixture where at least one character knows something that at least one other doesn’t, and where at least two things are happening at any given time. You’ve already established that he’s a perv by noting that he hangs around a small house, on the beach, reading porn magazines and watching TV with a turtle and an anthropomorphic pig. Not sure if this needs to be updated, since at this point DBZ Kai doesn't end at the Cell saga. I've read that Dragon Ball Z Kai is an HD remaster and recut of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. DBZ Kai also ends after the cell sage (skips 6 volumes, which are the best) and starts after Dragon Ball (the first 16). If somebody is starting to do something boring – like, say, just traveling, we can always cut to someone else doing something else. I heard the Kai series is just a better quality remake of the Z … Much like this blog post, the Majin Buu saga just feels like it takes forever to get through. DBZ: Battle of Gods (movie) comes after Dragon Ball Z. this is cut out and only Android 16's brain cartridge and a few bolts Is Dragon Ball Z Kai Finished? But the voice actors for Kai annoy the living **** out of me. 1. I need to bring up Mr. Popo’s appearance and Master Roshi’s perviness. I’m not sure of the exact price. Garlic Jr. saga doesn't appears on comics, and it's based on a plot that comes from an OVA which was plot-incompatible with the series, so it's possibly the best part to cut. Given the facts, you can make up your mind as to which you will watch, but in my humble opinion I would go with the originals first, and later on, if you want, you can look into Kai as an abridgment. By ending at the Cell saga, it ends in the place where the original author Akira Toriyama wanted it to. Gohan’s adventures in high school don’t last long. This might not seem as much of an answer as a complaint. He doesn’t actually appear all that much in Kai, but he is a key part of a handful of plot points and thus needs to exist. It doesn’t last very long, only a few episodes, but I’d say it lasted precisely as long as it needed to. -------ANSWER: ------- I can't answer because they put a freeze on this question, so I thought I'd answer in the comments. How can I dry out and reseal this corroding railing to prevent further damage? Lastly it hasn't been mentioned from what I've read but even though it's only a filler what happened to the Garlic Jr saga? In American productions of the anime (namely dubs), there could have been further censoring. It alternates between being really annoying and actually pretty funny, but by the time Fat Buu was taken out of the picture, I was more than ready to move on. You can watch it ad-supported for free up through episode 10, but then you’ll have to pay for one of their subscriptions, which are around ten US bucks a month. I’d place it dead last. Oh, and I haven’t even mentioned the numerous plot inconsistencies in this arc, or how bad the Sumitomo score can be here, but this bit has gone on long enough and I want to talk about my favorite overall story arc. I thought the whole Gohan thing was pretty great as a kid, too, and a defining moment of the whole series for me back then. This is fine, because a) it was an accident, b) Ed is clearly embarassed by it, and c) the woman he’s fighting thinks it’s funny right before kicking him off of her. Cell pukes up Android 18 and blows himself up at some point. I recommend reading colored version if you are going to read manga. 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